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The Solar Energy Fraud
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Dr. Jai Maharaj
2017-08-14 18:37:37 UTC
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The Solar Energy Fraud

By Norman Rogers
American Thinker, americanthinker.com
Monday, August 14, 2017

Solar energy is not always a fraud. If you live off the
electric grid, and you have a reasonable amount of
sunshine, solar power, backed up by batteries, can be a
good option for getting a modest amount of electricity.
It will not be cheap electricity.

Solar is good for powering equipment in remote locations.
It is excellent for powering spacecraft. It is good for
direct heating of swimming pools. Passive solar in the
form of buildings designed to utilize sunshine for warmth
and light can save energy.

But, do not think that it is advisable to put solar
electricity panels on your roof. Do not think that it is
a good idea for your local utility to build large solar
generating farms. Political influence has created
subsidies and mandates that prop up the solar industry.
The money is extracted from taxpayers and utility
customers. The solar industry positions itself as doing a
public service by preventing climate change. Even if you
believe the climate change theories, the solar industry
is a negligible force against climate change.

Utility scale solar in the sunniest climates can generate
electricity for about 7 cents per kilowatt hour (KWh).
Outside of the sunny south the cost is about 9 cents per
KWh. Most of the cost is capital cost, amortized over the
life of the plant. Government subsides often cut the
price in half for users of solar electricity.

Residential rooftop solar, under the best conditions, may
generate electricity for about 15 cents per KWh. Usually
the cost will be considerably higher. Not everyone's roof
faces south and not everyone lives in a sunny climate.

A fundamental error is to suppose that if solar could
generate electricity at a cost equal to conventional
generators it would be competitive. The leading type of
conventional generator is combined cycle natural gas.
These plants can generate electricity at a cost
approaching 3.6 cents per KWh, or 2 to 3 times cheaper
than solar. In order to be competitive, solar has to
generate power not just cheaper than the alternative,
but, as will be explained, cheaper than the fuel consumed
by the alternative.

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Om Shanti

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Dr. Jai Maharaj
2017-08-14 18:44:45 UTC
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Post by Dr. Jai Maharaj
The Solar Energy Fraud
By Norman Rogers
American Thinker, americanthinker.com
Monday, August 14, 2017
Solar energy is not always a fraud. If you live off the
electric grid, and you have a reasonable amount of
sunshine, solar power, backed up by batteries, can be a
good option for getting a modest amount of electricity.
It will not be cheap electricity.
Solar is good for powering equipment in remote locations.
It is excellent for powering spacecraft. It is good for
direct heating of swimming pools. Passive solar in the
form of buildings designed to utilize sunshine for warmth
and light can save energy.
But, do not think that it is advisable to put solar
electricity panels on your roof. Do not think that it is
a good idea for your local utility to build large solar
generating farms. Political influence has created
subsidies and mandates that prop up the solar industry.
The money is extracted from taxpayers and utility
customers. The solar industry positions itself as doing a
public service by preventing climate change. Even if you
believe the climate change theories, the solar industry
is a negligible force against climate change.
Utility scale solar in the sunniest climates can generate
electricity for about 7 cents per kilowatt hour (KWh).
Outside of the sunny south the cost is about 9 cents per
KWh. Most of the cost is capital cost, amortized over the
life of the plant. Government subsides often cut the
price in half for users of solar electricity.
Residential rooftop solar, under the best conditions, may
generate electricity for about 15 cents per KWh. Usually
the cost will be considerably higher. Not everyone's roof
faces south and not everyone lives in a sunny climate.
A fundamental error is to suppose that if solar could
generate electricity at a cost equal to conventional
generators it would be competitive. The leading type of
conventional generator is combined cycle natural gas.
These plants can generate electricity at a cost
approaching 3.6 cents per KWh, or 2 to 3 times cheaper
than solar. In order to be competitive, solar has to
generate power not just cheaper than the alternative,
but, as will be explained, cheaper than the fuel consumed
by the alternative.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/the_solar_energy_fraud.html
Forwarded post:

Great article, Mr. Rogers! As one who works designing
power electronics devices for this industry, I can
confirm that all of your observations and conclusions are
spot on.

Solar only receives full power for six hours per average
cloudless day (and a lot of localities have lots of
cloudy days). Many locations have shading issues from
trees, chimneys, etc. Even a single large bird dropping
can kill a panel's efficiency. (There are technologies
that can mitigate most of this effect, but they are not
yet in wide use.)

Some places in the USA pay as little as 6 to 8 cents per
kilowatt-hour for electricity. For solar power to be cost
effective electricity rates have to be 5+ times that
rate. Sensible people don't like throwing their money
down a rat hole (however, politicians have no problem
spending other people's money).

Posted by thinkwell

End of forwarded post.

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Om Shanti

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Dr. Jai Maharaj
2017-08-14 18:45:40 UTC
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Post by Dr. Jai Maharaj
The Solar Energy Fraud
By Norman Rogers
American Thinker, americanthinker.com
Monday, August 14, 2017
Solar energy is not always a fraud. If you live off the
electric grid, and you have a reasonable amount of
sunshine, solar power, backed up by batteries, can be a
good option for getting a modest amount of electricity.
It will not be cheap electricity.
Solar is good for powering equipment in remote locations.
It is excellent for powering spacecraft. It is good for
direct heating of swimming pools. Passive solar in the
form of buildings designed to utilize sunshine for warmth
and light can save energy.
But, do not think that it is advisable to put solar
electricity panels on your roof. Do not think that it is
a good idea for your local utility to build large solar
generating farms. Political influence has created
subsidies and mandates that prop up the solar industry.
The money is extracted from taxpayers and utility
customers. The solar industry positions itself as doing a
public service by preventing climate change. Even if you
believe the climate change theories, the solar industry
is a negligible force against climate change.
Utility scale solar in the sunniest climates can generate
electricity for about 7 cents per kilowatt hour (KWh).
Outside of the sunny south the cost is about 9 cents per
KWh. Most of the cost is capital cost, amortized over the
life of the plant. Government subsides often cut the
price in half for users of solar electricity.
Residential rooftop solar, under the best conditions, may
generate electricity for about 15 cents per KWh. Usually
the cost will be considerably higher. Not everyone's roof
faces south and not everyone lives in a sunny climate.
A fundamental error is to suppose that if solar could
generate electricity at a cost equal to conventional
generators it would be competitive. The leading type of
conventional generator is combined cycle natural gas.
These plants can generate electricity at a cost
approaching 3.6 cents per KWh, or 2 to 3 times cheaper
than solar. In order to be competitive, solar has to
generate power not just cheaper than the alternative,
but, as will be explained, cheaper than the fuel consumed
by the alternative.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/the_solar_energy_fraud.html
Great article, Mr. Rogers! As one who works designing
power electronics devices for this industry, I can
confirm that all of your observations and conclusions are
spot on.
Solar only receives full power for six hours per average
cloudless day (and a lot of localities have lots of
cloudy days). Many locations have shading issues from
trees, chimneys, etc. Even a single large bird dropping
can kill a panel's efficiency. (There are technologies
that can mitigate most of this effect, but they are not
yet in wide use.)
Some places in the USA pay as little as 6 to 8 cents per
kilowatt-hour for electricity. For solar power to be cost
effective electricity rates have to be 5+ times that
rate. Sensible people don't like throwing their money
down a rat hole (however, politicians have no problem
spending other people's money).
Posted by thinkwell
End of forwarded post.
Forwarded post:

Solar energy scheme. The biggest winner in the promotion
of solar power scheme is the Democrat Party. Solyndra
told the tale. No different than the Obama DOJ parsing
out settlements (shakedowns) to their favored. Recipients
of these loans are donors to the Democrat party. Who
approved these loans? How much did these companies donate
to the Democrat Party, returning the favor? When will
these loans be repaid?
https://energy.gov/lpo/portfolio/portfolio-projects

Posted by bizysignal

End of forwarded post.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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Dr. Jai Maharaj
2017-08-14 18:46:40 UTC
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Post by Dr. Jai Maharaj
Post by Dr. Jai Maharaj
The Solar Energy Fraud
By Norman Rogers
American Thinker, americanthinker.com
Monday, August 14, 2017
Solar energy is not always a fraud. If you live off the
electric grid, and you have a reasonable amount of
sunshine, solar power, backed up by batteries, can be a
good option for getting a modest amount of electricity.
It will not be cheap electricity.
Solar is good for powering equipment in remote locations.
It is excellent for powering spacecraft. It is good for
direct heating of swimming pools. Passive solar in the
form of buildings designed to utilize sunshine for warmth
and light can save energy.
But, do not think that it is advisable to put solar
electricity panels on your roof. Do not think that it is
a good idea for your local utility to build large solar
generating farms. Political influence has created
subsidies and mandates that prop up the solar industry.
The money is extracted from taxpayers and utility
customers. The solar industry positions itself as doing a
public service by preventing climate change. Even if you
believe the climate change theories, the solar industry
is a negligible force against climate change.
Utility scale solar in the sunniest climates can generate
electricity for about 7 cents per kilowatt hour (KWh).
Outside of the sunny south the cost is about 9 cents per
KWh. Most of the cost is capital cost, amortized over the
life of the plant. Government subsides often cut the
price in half for users of solar electricity.
Residential rooftop solar, under the best conditions, may
generate electricity for about 15 cents per KWh. Usually
the cost will be considerably higher. Not everyone's roof
faces south and not everyone lives in a sunny climate.
A fundamental error is to suppose that if solar could
generate electricity at a cost equal to conventional
generators it would be competitive. The leading type of
conventional generator is combined cycle natural gas.
These plants can generate electricity at a cost
approaching 3.6 cents per KWh, or 2 to 3 times cheaper
than solar. In order to be competitive, solar has to
generate power not just cheaper than the alternative,
but, as will be explained, cheaper than the fuel consumed
by the alternative.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/08/the_solar_energy_fraud.html
Great article, Mr. Rogers! As one who works designing
power electronics devices for this industry, I can
confirm that all of your observations and conclusions are
spot on.
Solar only receives full power for six hours per average
cloudless day (and a lot of localities have lots of
cloudy days). Many locations have shading issues from
trees, chimneys, etc. Even a single large bird dropping
can kill a panel's efficiency. (There are technologies
that can mitigate most of this effect, but they are not
yet in wide use.)
Some places in the USA pay as little as 6 to 8 cents per
kilowatt-hour for electricity. For solar power to be cost
effective electricity rates have to be 5+ times that
rate. Sensible people don't like throwing their money
down a rat hole (however, politicians have no problem
spending other people's money).
Posted by thinkwell
End of forwarded post.
Solar energy scheme. The biggest winner in the promotion
of solar power scheme is the Democrat Party. Solyndra
told the tale. No different than the Obama DOJ parsing
out settlements (shakedowns) to their favored. Recipients
of these loans are donors to the Democrat party. Who
approved these loans? How much did these companies donate
to the Democrat Party, returning the favor? When will
these loans be repaid?
https://energy.gov/lpo/portfolio/portfolio-projects
Posted by bizysignal
End of forwarded post.
Forwarded post:

I had four solar panels on my roof, and it was nothing
but trouble.

It only saved me a few dollars a day. The solar tubes
corroded and ruptured on my roof. The solar heating fluid
came down on my head when I was sitting on my porch.

Later the solar fluid pump stopped working and had to be
replaced, which was very expensive.

I will never install solar panels on my roof again.

Posted by Mike6

End of forwarded post.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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